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take your weekend on with a coupon at depend.com and good tuesday morning. i'm jose diaz-balart. first on "the rundown" this morning, the e-mails of hillary clinton, her political team has been up all night, going through the newest batch of her messages. the state department releasing over 7,000 pages of e-mails overnight. the largest collection of e-mails and it shows an inter t interesting mixture of her public and personal life. andrea mitchell is following the story. good morning. >> good morning, jose. this is the story that just won't go away for hillary
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clinton. today, the largest batch of clinton e-mails yet, more than 7,000 pages, released overnight under court order. roughly 125 are now classified. this time, none were top secret, but 125 were classified confidential in the last few days, including this 2010 e-mail about press reports the state department was softening the administration's stance in nuclear talks with iran. clinton writes an aide, the "wall street journal" says it's a reversal of position. what gives. >> clinton's private e-mail system did cause confusion. close aide huma abedin writes her that some official e-mails were not getting through. she said it's clearly a state versus outside e-mail issue. the state department help desk seemed unaware the e-mail was clintons, abadeedin writing the had no idea it was you.
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they cautioned restwraraint discussing anything classified. clinton struggled to set up her ipad, asking an aide how to charge it. later adding, i don't know if i have wi-fi. how do i find out? some e-mails are clearly not state secrets. she e-mails a personal assistant for skim milk for tea, and the tv schedule for parks and recreation and "the good wife." the political controversy is taking a toll. many democrats are nervous about what the fbi may find, and republicans are pouncing on the controversy. as dick cheney did with cnn. >> i think it was sloppy and unprofessional, that it reflected a lack of understanding about how easy it is for adversaries to tap into communications. >> meanwhile, clinton's once enormous lead over bernie sanders in iowa has shrunk to seven points in the most recent
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poll. as sanders and donald trump attract crowds angry at politics as usual, sanders told me he rejects any similarity. >> i don't accept that for one moment. we are not engaged here in demagogry, in racist attacks, outrageous attacks against mexicans. >> now, trump faces competition from another republican outsider, dr. ben carson. now, tying trump among likely iowa caucusgoers in a new poll. closely watching clinton's e-mail troubles, joe biden. i'm told he's now seriously considering a race if he decides he can give it his all after the tragic death of his son beau, and this may be a season where biden's attributes are matched with the time. jose. >> andrea mitchell in washington, thank you very much. we're going to talk more about the e-mails and what they mean for the campaign in minutes. developing right now here in miami, jeb bush scheduled to
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hold a town hall with high school students in about an hour. first, he's taking a tour of a presbyterian school, and while he courts voters here in the state of florida, he's facing challenging new poll numbers as donald trump takes direct aim with a new attack released on instagram. >> yes, they broke the law, but it's not a felony. it's kind of a -- it's a -- it's an act of love. >> and just moments ago, jeb bush and his campaign responded by releasing this video. >> partial-birth abortion. >> i'm very pro-choice. i am pro-choice in every respect, and as far as it goes. >> as far as single payer, it works in canada. it works incredibly well in scotland. >> the fact is that 25% of our
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high income people, it should be raised substantially. >> joining me now outside bush's event in miami is "washington post" political reporter ed o'keefe. what are we expecting to hear today from bush? >> well, he's primarily focusing on his education record and is going to take a few questions from students here. a few parents and teachers as well. i suspect we will see him make subtle or more direct digs at donald trump. this new video is tough, aimed at attracting support in iowa, or reminding iowa republicans this is a guy who has been somewhat liberal in the past. and might just be adopting republican principles now for political gain. we'll see if that sticks. that ad yesterday that trump released only by instagram, notably, really resembled the willy horton ads, weremember th one george h.w. bush ran against michael dukakis? these ones suggested a similar tone. the bush campaign responding by saying, first of all, you're
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taking the governor's comments out of context. second, if you're questioning his crime record, this was a tough on crime two-term governor. >> latest polling shows bush now in sixth place in iowa. he comes in at just 5%. look at that. that's a huge drop. that's well behind trump and carson. at the same time, 51% of republican voters there view bush unfavably. what does he need to do to improve the standing? >> he should probably move to the state, probably. he's not going to do that. new hampshire on the top of the must-win list for him. this reflects concern among hard-core republican voters that bush is perhaps someone that is either not conservative enough or just simply an example, an embodiment of that of-washington or politician model they don't want anymore. the fact you see trump, carson, carly fiorina, essentially holding a majority of support
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among iowa republicans and in other polls in other places, really suggest that republicans overall still very upset with the establishment. >> ed o'keefe at a school in miami. thank you, good to see you. >> take care. this hour, reports that a county clerk is still refusing to issue marriage licenses to gay couples despite a supreme court order rejecting her peel. kim davis said she has religious objections to same-sex marriages and therefore cannot issue the licenses. pete williams is with us now to tell us more. good morning. good morning, jose. it's not clear what the next step is going to be. she's in contempt of court now. a trial judge in her state, in kentucky, as well as an appeals court have both said she has to issue these licenses despite her religious objections, that her religious beliefs don't free her from following the constitution and the supreme court's rulings. she went to the supreme court and said while i'm appealing my case, please let me continue not
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to issue these licenses. don't make me do this. and last night, the supreme court turned down her request. no note of dissent, didn't even ask for reviews from the other side. now the ball is back in her court. she could be found in contempt of court for refusing to violate the orders. she's an elected official. it's not clear what actions the state could take. the governor said in a similar case involving someone else, if they refuse to follow the law, they should resign. there's no sign she is going to do that. this is the most visible instance of pushback against the supreme court's decision in june saying there's a constitutional right to same-sex marriage. there have been similar actions in two other states, texas and alabama, but this was the first one to reach the supreme court. and it came and went pretty fast. >> yeah, i'm wondering, so, because she's an elected official, pete, there really is no recourse to, you know, sanction her in any way, or is there? >> well, she could be found in
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contempt of court. that would be a sanction. >> right. what would that mean? >> she could be fined. there's actually, if she's found in criminal contempt of court, she could be put in jail until she agrees to issue the licenses. she's something of a local hero there. she's got a lot of local support. it's a rural area in kentucky. its arer not clear what the next step is going to be, but i would be very surprised if the court or the state simply lets her disobey the constitution and the law here. >> pete williams, thank you very much for being with me. now to developing news out of thailand. police in bangkok said they have arrested a key suspect in the bombing of a popular shrine. now looking for three additional men suspected of being involved in the attack that killed 20 people. ian williams is in beijing. how big of a breakthrough is this? >> good morning, jose. well, the thai authorities are saying the second suspect they have arrested is an important
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figure in the network they believe was responsible for that bombing at the shrine which killed 20 people and injured more than 130. now, he's the second suspect to be arrested and was detained today near the cambodia border. the prime minister said he closely resembled the suspect in yellow filmed by a security camera leaving that shrine area shortly before the bomb went off. the prime minister went on to describe him as the main suspect. later today, the police backtracked. they said merely he was an important suspect and that he was being sent to bangkok for questioning where he would also undertake dna, fingerprint, and other forensic tests. witnessed webe called to try to more closely identify him. at the same time today, the police issued a further three arrest warrants, bringing to seven the total number that they have now issued.
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now, you'll recall the first suspect was arrested at the weekend in a raid on a bangkok apartment which also netted a lot of explosive materials and passports, fake passports. now, they're not saying anything about the identity of that man or the identity of the man detained today. other than they are foreigners. and the guy picked up today is, they say, spoke english. clearly, they arrived at the arrest today from information, we believe they got at the weekend. this is certainly an important step, jose. >> ian williams, thank you very much for this information. we're just getting started on this tuesday edition of "the rundown." up next, hundreds of migrents and refugees camped out in front of budapest's main station. we're going to go there live for the migrant crisis that continues to grow throughout europe. >> plus, we're going to take you live to alaska. president obama is set to begin the second day of his historic trip there which includes taking
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in some of the sights. his big push is climate change. i'll have more on his message coming up next. also, nazi gold hidden in a train tunnel? the latest on what could be a major find in poland, straight ahead right here on "the rundown." is today the first of september, i think it is? happy september. g's possible. they just do it. at sears optical, we're committed to bringing them eyewear that works as hard as they do. right now, buy one pair and get another free. quality eyewear for doers. sears optical from bank of america to buy a new gym bag. before earning 1% cash back everywhere, every time and 2% back at the grocery store. even before he got 3% back on gas. kenny used his bankamericard cash rewards credit card to join the wednesday night league. because he loves to play hoops. not jump through them. that's the excitement of rewarding connections.
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here right in front of the train station. i don't know if you can see this, behind me, some of the hundreds of migrants who have been here for days waiting to board the train to vienna. then on to munich, germany. germany is one of the main destinations of choice for these people to seek asylum. while they haven't been allowed into the station all day and even if they do, they may not be allowed onto the train, even though most of them have told them they have -- told us they have tickets. now, some of them showed up tickets they paid $150 to get all the way to munich, germany. now, i don't know whether you can see the police right on my left. they're blocking the entrance of the main train stations. they're telling people to go to the side entrances, but still, the migrants cannot get in. this is -- the authorities here in hungary said that they are doing this to apply the eu law, because they say people without
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passports, regular passports or visas cannot move freely around europe, as europeans do. but humanitarian organizations are saying that by taking this tough stance on migrants, well, they just push them in the hands of ruthless traffickers who then offer for a hefty fee to take them to the country of destination, usually germany in this case. in the back of vans and trucks where they risk literally their lie li live, jose. dw thank you. the crisis is getting more and more dangerous for literally thousands of people. still ahead, the latest on the ambush killing of a police officer in houston as we learn more about the suspect. and another police officer shot, this time in georgia after police responded to a burglary call at the wrong house. those details plus another
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everyone's raving! age defy from clairol the secret? superior gray coverage that leaves hair looking 10 years younger age defy from clairol a georgia police officer is in critical condition this morning after he was shot while responding to a burglary call at the wrong house. it happened last night near atlanta. officials say when officers arrived at the house, shots were fired hitting both the officer and the homeowner. the homeowner's dog was also killed. authorities say the officers went to the wrong address because they had only been giving a vague description of the house without a street number. and developing in texas this morning, the man charges with a seemingly random shooting, a death of a sheriff's deputy in houston is held this morning without bond. shannon miles made his first appearance on monday.
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the 30-year-old accused of opening fire from behind and shooting darren gofurther 15 times at a gas station friday night. >> he runs up behind deputy goforth and puts a gun to the back of his head and shoots. deputy goforth hits the ground and then he continues to unload his gun, shooting repeatedly into the back of deputy goforth. >> we're also learning more about miles' past, including what his former attorney says is a history of mental illness. jamie is live in houston. good morning, jamie. where does the case against miles stand this morning? >> morning, jose. four days after the shooting, all is still a steady stream of visitors to pump number eight at this chevron station which has become a memorial to fallen deputy darren goforth. in the meantime, legal experts say a grand jury will be convened in a week or two and a court date is set for october 5th for the suspect, shannon miles. his lawyer said he plans to
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plead not guilty. there was a brief court appearance by miles yesterday where the district attorney read out details in the case. miles was walked into court under heavy security. he appeared to look on without reaction as the district attorney read to the judge some gruesome details. the district attorney said when deputies appeared at the scene here on friday night, they found 15 shell casings around the body of goforth as every bullet in the murder weapon, and jose, police are still looking for a motive, although yesterday the prosecutor says that a motive is not required in order to move on with the case. >> jamie, thank you very much. president obama is in alaska this morning trying to use the dramatic landscapes as a way to warn people what's at risk if the world doesn't deal with climate change. in a speech to an arctic climate summit, he painted a doom's day scenario of floods, more drought, and more war. but he says it's not a foregone conclusion.
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>> the other path is to embrace the human ingenuity that can do something about it. this is within our power. this is a solvable problem. if we start now. >> senior white house correspondent chris jansing is traveling with the president in the lovely state of alaska. what's next for the president today? >> we're in alaska, and this is the place where later today, jose, he's going to hike a glacier. it's called the exit glacier. it is known for the sounds it makes, that actually when you hike across it, you can hear that very thick ice, but melting ice, crackling beneath your feet. look, this is what he wanted to do. he wanted to get the visuals to what he has been saying here about the dangers of globe al warming. you talked about sort of this doomsday scenario. listening to his speech late
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yesterday in anchorage about three miles away, he went off script a lot. he had just finished speaking to a number of locals, including some native alaskans about what they see, the changes they see. this glacier he's going out on actually has signs that show you the glacial retreat. he issued a warning to other leaders about what will happen if some very serious action is not taken. he says this is actually one of these times when we cannot wait and said if we don't act, it condemns our children to a planet beyond their capacity to repair. now, this is obviously very highly orchestrated to make the president's point. he's going to do something, i think we can all say, is highly unusual. that is, he's going to tape a segment for the series on nbc "running wild with bear grylls," the britting survivalist. when i talked to a white house official, he said he wont tell
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me what the survival skills were, but the president wanted to do anything the secret service would allow him to do. it could be a very interesting day for the president. even as there are some protests against his recent decision to allow shell oil to drill off alaska coast. jose. >> chris jansing, thank you. don't want to let you go without asking, where exactly are you? at a marina or something? >> yeah, so this is the marina in seward. we're a little bit away from obviously where the glacier is. i came in overnight. this wind is unbelievable. i may do a little flying off the screen here. >> a flying reporter. >> we're about a three-hour drive outside of anchorage, and this is a place that is known for fishing, obviously, boating, but this is a famous glacier because you see so dramatically the glacial retreat. >> chris jansing in the wind, thank you for being here with me this morning.
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i appreciate it. all eyes are on wall street as we head toward the opening bell. the features have been down throughout the morning. take a look at the numbers signaling a huge drop out of the gates. it's been like that for almost a week now. we'll check in with cnbc after the break. plus, treasure hunters uncover a hoard of nazi gold in train cars? more on this incredible story coming up on "the rundown." guess what: your insurance company will only give you 37-thousand to replace it. "depreciation" they claim. "how can my car depreciate before it's first oil change?" you ask. maybe the better question is, why do you have that insurance company? with liberty mutual new car replacement, we'll replace the full value of your car. see car insurance in a whole new light. liberty mutual insurance.
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york's stock exchange, the opening bell sounding off on what's expected to be another rough day on wall street. take a look at the dow. falling right at the open. it's down almost 100 points right now. all the indexes are in the red. the s&p 500 and nasdaq, let's take a look at all three. nasdaq down 105. s & p down 20, and 99, the dow
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jones. the weakness yet again fueled by china. the asian markets fell overnight. all three of them. china shanghai index down 1.2%, nikkei dropped 3.8%, and hang seng fell 2.2%. let's head to dominic chuat the headquarters with more. thank you, and also, there's a rule 48 issue coming up again. >> there is the rule 48i issuis. there are a number of cross kaurnt there are a focus. a lot of this worry is coming utof asia where a couple of their key economic indicators specifically around the manufacturing environment showed weaker than expected results. that's having ripple effects throughout the asian region, if you will. japan is down big. nikkei down 4%. it's one of china's trading partners. a direct effect from any economic weakness there with japan. the u.s. and china have a big trading relationship. and china's of course the
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world's second biggest economy. so there are huge oil consumer, commodity consumer, and for that reason, you're seeing that worry come back. but these futures, you're seeing the early indications for stocks in the red. futures are pointing to what could be a much worse open for stocks. we'll see how that shakes out in the next few moments. >> what is the rule 48 expected to do? >> rule 48 is basically a rule that allows certain participants on the floor of the new york stock exchange, the ones responsible for making prices, markets for some of the stocks to do things differently than they normally do in order to facilitate a more orderly opening and trading of stocks. usually they have to kind of quote prices, quote indications to kind of give people a level. this allows them a little more flexibility to get prices to where they are going to be without having to go through a lot of the formality of setting certain price indications and levels. it's meant to kind of give these participants, these market
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makemaker s a better chance at insuring what could be a more orderly market. that's the big deal. it got invoked a number of times during the turmoil. >> thank you. we'll keep an eye on the market throughout the next of course two hours and throughout the day here on msnbc. right now, the dow, let's go back to it live. just a quick look at how it's dropping. it's been dropping more than 200 points just in the last couple of minutes. there you see 285-point drop. back now to politics and the giant release of hillary clinton e-mails overnight by the state department. more than 7,000 pages of messages made public. approximately 125 are now classified as confidential. they were not classified as such when they were sent or received. in one exchange with an aide, clinton expresses frustration over not being able to receive the text of a public statement. the aide explains the government had not yet unclassified that statement so it couldn't be sent to her personal account.
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in others, she asks her top communications staffer for help setting up her new ipad. even asking someone if they know if it's connected to wi-fi or not. with me now, erin and david, thank you both for being with me. david, let me start with you. some of the more serious messages in here, a notion that clinton aide couldn't sent a classified piece of text help or hurt her position because she clearly says let's delete this after you read it. don't pass it along. >> i don't think any of this is helpful in the end when you're going to have a rolling disclosure of her e-mails. i think especially of note in this trove was that the help desk sort of the tech people at the state department, didn't even know about this personal address that she had to send e-mails. it seemed, because they were trying to notify her of fatal errors that some people were getting when they were trying to send to this address. so it didn't even seem that the
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tech people that we all know and deal with in companies weren't aware of this system. and that sort of poses more questions about the security of it, i think, in the future when republicans raise these questions. >> erin, you know, when you look at the fact she didn't know if it could be set up with wi-fi or not. when these ipad things came out, i think a lot of people had questions of how it worked. so that's normal, but does it seem to undercut the argument she's made from the beginning that she had this personal account that it's easier to carry one device and not two? >> that particular topic has been exhaustively talked about, but you know, having an ipad in addition to an iphone, i mean, you could argue that she -- an iphone, blackberry, whatever it was, you could argue she has two devices there. she's obviously just trying to learn how to use e-mail. i think in one case, one of her aides was trying to explain to her how her ipad, which she called the h-pad, would actually
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update. you showed that comment that she didn't have cords, she didn't know how to charge it. she needed her aide huma to help her figure out how to use it. clearly, she's not the best user of some of these technologies. that's, i guess, a funny part of this whole story. >> david, look, there is nothing in these e-mails that was classified at the time they were sent. they were received. a lot of them, 120-something have now just in the last couple of days been found to have some parts that need to be redacted. does this matter? >> look, the clinton campaign is going to talk about classification and how that's the issue here. that, look, they're always going to err on the side of caution when they deal with keeping it confidential. they will say that these 120 e-mails were marked confidential, sort of the lowest priority tier of the classification system. and they're going to argue that, look, there's always an argument
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about what should be classified. you can see in some of the redacted e-mails, there are a couple names that are blotted out. they would say even if jow send a news clip about a drone strike that's in the news, that's public information, someone may consider that classified information. they're going to argue sort of the rules of the game here. that's what they have been arguing to reporters and the media that look, you can always argue about what gets classified and what doesn't. that she never knowingly did this. >> david and erin, great seeing you both. thanks for being with me this tuesday morning. appreciate it. >> thanks, jose. now to virginia where in just under two hours, family and friends of photo journalist adam ward will hold a memorial to celebrate his life at first baptist church in roanoke. ward and his colleague alison parker were killed when a former coworker fired multiple shots in a live interview last week. now, to a story that sounds
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like the plot from like an indiana jones movie. a nazi train packed with gold lost for more than 70 years, may have been found. it disappears as nazis flood russia army at the end of world war ii. legend has it it's still hidden under mountains of southwestern poland somewhere. even crazier, just as police were warning treasure hunters to stay away, there are reports the whole area has caught fire. monica has been writing about this for the associated press. she joins me this morning. thank you for being with me. >> hello. here i am with you from poland, the city where it is all taking place, where it's all started. >> tell me about this fire. tell me about this fire. >> this fire was monday, probably the result of the
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presence of so many gold hunters here. probably it was started by someone careless, maybe having a bonfire near the place where many people from poland and from other countries also are looking for the train loaded with gold, jewelry, valuables, but also armorments. >> and let me ask you about why -- i mean, it seems like 70 years later, the fact that this big train could still be in any of these tunnels, haven't these tunnels been searched by authorities for decades now? >> well, at first, there was no news about it because the train was well hidden. it exists, of course, but during the '60s and '50s, there were
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searches organized by the communist authorities who seemed to have had some information about a possible train hidden. but apparently those searches of the area of the mountains, wooded mountains around the city, apparently, they have brought no results or at least the results are not known. and then one of the residents of the city in the 1970s heard from local people, from his neighbors and friends, some of whom were germans staying in the area after the war, that a train was hidden in an unknown tunnel. that there were trains going down between two small towns in the region. they left but they never arrived at their destination, and that there was a side track that led into the mountains.
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>> this is a fascinating, fascinating, fascinating story. monica, thank you for being with me. we will keep watching this story and see if there are developments. the legend is that this train has gold, art, jewelry, and it's also been mined. there are mines within it that would go off, these land mines, if people tried to get in. we'll keep a close watch on that story. >> after a quick break, we're going to get a status check on where the iran nuclear deal sits in the senate. will the president have enough votes for the deal to move forward? and let's take arth look at the dow. huge selloff under way, slowing growth in china, and the concerns, we're now down, ooh, like in five minutes, from 250 to 340 drop.
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remember when congress left town last month? the big question was whether the president could keep under votes to keep the senate from killing the deal. he's now three votes away, and it could cut it to two by the end of the day. he's at 31. he needs 34 to keep the senate from getting a veto-proof majority. chris coons will announce his decision. even with the obama administration nearing the finish line, officials aren't backing ought yet. secretary of state john kerry will make his speech for a deal tomorrow, and president obama will try to tamp down fears of a split between the u.s. and israel telling a jewish paper, quote, there are always going to be arguments among families and friends, and israel is not just an ally. it's not just a friend. it's family. i want to bring in marc ginsbe g ginsberg. good to see you. >> good morning, jose. >> looks like the president is getting very close to getting in the senate what he feels is very important that he have. >> oh, yes, very close. in fact, i understand from the
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tea leaves that the president is even trying to see if they can launch a filibuster against the resolution of disapproval rather than have the resolution of disapproval affirmatively voted by the majority of the republicans in the senate, which after all, it is a senate that is controlled by the republicans. so, that is how confident the administration is beginning to feel about its likelihood of succeeding. one, either on a filibuster against the resolution or two, jose, being able to prevent a veto from being overridden. >> interesting. now, you know, you saw like chuck schumer, bob menendez, coming out against the deal. a lot of people thought that would maybe be the opening to floodigates with their no votes. it look like that hasn't really happened. >> well, look, there's several senators who are still very much out there on the fence. ben cardin in my state of
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maryland who is the ranking democrat on the foreign relations committee has not declared yet. there are still senators coming back from august recess having heard quite an earful, i'm sure, from their constituents. i'm sure the white house, while it's increasingly confident, cannot take anyone for granted at this point. >> yesterday, we saw tom conor release a picture of his meeting with benjamin netanyahu. do you see this perceived split between the u.s. and israel to persist after the deal is voted on? >> yeah, jose, i have close ties obviously over there, and i understand that this is not just merely a question of netanyahu. this is across the board in israel. there's great reasonable fear about iran in the region. and it's not merely about the president's nuclear deal. after all, iran is the principle sponsor of hezbollah, the greatest threat conventionally to israel as well as to hamas. as the iran deal has been
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pending before congress, there have been a cavalcade of iranian leaders coming out, still declaring their intention to wipe israel off the map, et cetera. so the israelis have very good reasons to fear this deal that would provide iran with a great deal of strength in the region. and that's, the president is trying to overcome that. >> ambassador ginsburg, always a pleasure to see you. thank you for being with me. authorities in southern california say they have taken hundreds of immigrants into custody after a massive four-day operation. 244 people were taken into federal custody in the sweep for undocumented immigrants with criminal records. the operation took place last week, and authorities say a majority of those apprehended have at least one felony conviction on their record. up next, the geography of poverty. our own tramain lee joins us with a powerful look at a deep problem affecting our country. >> first, chris christie stopped by "the tonight show" and jimmy
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we're getting a good look today at the geography of poverty. also the names of an nbc special series out today with the third installment. 38 million people meet the official guidelines for poverty in this country, and that doesn't include those considered the working poor. tre'maine lee is with us this morning. he's been traveling across the
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country with photographer matt black to catch the stories and topographies of the poor. your plan is to visit more than 70 cities where its members fall below the poverty line. what does that look like? >> at 20%, you really start to see the indicators that really disrupt people's lives. you're talking about a great food insecurity, housing issues and the kind of concentration of poverty that you see that exacerbates all those other disparates including the lack of access to quality, basically, everything, health care and food. when you look at a city like philadelphia where it's 26% of the population is below the poverty line, that's nearly 180,000 people. when you look at chicago where the poverty rate is 23%, that's more than 200,000 people. so the numbers are great. that doesn't even begin to include those communities in rural areas where there is great disparates in income gaps in that deep poverty rate we're talking about.
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>> tell us about the reust belt. >> when you look at the east coast and cities like camden and baltimore and gary, indiana and detroit and all those other places that had been hubs of industries, steel and the auto industry, when those industries collapse collapsed, so went those communities. in this latest installment, we kind of zero in on flint, michigan, once home to gm. g mrkm employed 80,000 people ae point. now that's 500. they were the heartbeat of this community, and now that that's gone, folks are in a desperate situation. that speaks to people in cleveland, ohio spread across the region that had been the hub and now that that's gone, so went those livelihoods. >> so what struck you the most during your journey? >> i think the most is when you look at child poverty rates and actual child hunger rates. there are families just scraping by and they really are concerned about finding their next meal. i've spent so much time in these
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communities and in soup kitchens and charities and the food banks, and when you see children, the bottom of their feet blackened, you see their stomachs growling and their families are in such a desperate state, but it's hunger. imagine small children going to school or not going to school with their bellies growling. that's been the most striking. >> when you think about this, 45 million people is the population of argentina. >> it's shocking and it's an embarrassment in our nation just to see there is so much prosperity, so much wealth in this country. but 45 million people across this country are going without every day. not going without the material goods that we covered so much, they're going without a roof over their heads and food in their stomachs and i think that's been the most striking thing, that the pool is so deep of despair in this country and no one seems to be paying attention. >> tre'maine lee, thank you for paying attention. thank you for being with me.
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you can see his series at msnbc.com. breaking right now in long island, a building collapsed at bryant university. police say they received a call around 8:20 a.m. local time with the report of a collapse. it's unclear whether there were any injuries. police say several ambulances have been sent to the scene. the university 12 miles outside of providence. classes are set to begin there the 8th of this month. still ahead on "the rundown," we're watching two developing stories. in just about 12 minutes, jeb bush will hold a town hall here in miami at the presbyterian school. it's all about getting back to school. we have the markets also this morning. the dow dropping like a rock, 323 points down? we'll check with cnbc the next hour on "the rundown." for an explanation of what's going on, how long this could last and how it's going to affect all of us. cheerios team. and when i found out that my daughter-in-law, joyce, can't eat gluten,
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we're watching multiple stories developing in presidential politics this morning. in just a couple minutes, gop presidential candidate jeb bush will begin a town hall meeting at a school here in miami. and in washington, james o'keefe is preparing to release what he claims is an undercover video explaining wrongdoing in hillary clinton's campaign. it's another story surrounding clinton. overnight, the government released over 7100 pages of her e-mails when she was secretary of state. 125 of them were labeled confidential. they were not labeled that way when they were sent and received. let's talk to mark murray. good morning. >> good morning, jose. >> what have you found when searching through these e-mails
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released overnight? >> yeah. jose, there doesn't seem to be a smoking gun in the concern that the clinton campaign has the most concern about, that somehow the fbi is going to find some type of wrongdoing in how these e-mails were handled. the big thing is that someone knowingly mishandled the classified information. i don't think we get a big smoking gun at all. there was an e-mail sent from a top clinton aide from hum huma abedin acknowledging the fact she had her own private server and e-mail account where someone didn't know, they thought it might have been the state department. that's the one thing they found. hillary clinton said she's taken responsibility for having that private account. >> mark, there is also the question of one of those e-mails where the then-secretary says, don't pass this along, delete after reading. that's clearly someone who doesn't want that information
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that she's seeing to be, you know, sent to others. >> well, that's right. and, jose, it's worth knowing that this entire foyer request, there were e-mails brought up that were deleted because they've been upgraded to their classification status after the fact. the state department said this is a standard operating procedure for requests from the state department and others when you're dealing with things that actually, oh, this is classified. we need to redact the name, we need to x out this so the public at large can see all the e-mails. >> and some of those that have been redacted won't be available for public consumption for 10 or 15 years. >> well, and again, jose, that has to do with the classification status. now, what we are getting or what the state department said they would always produce, this was triggered by a lawsuit and a foyer request to get all these e-mails out, and it is worth noting that we've now reached
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the stage where 25% of the e-mails have been published. we'll be waiting for the other 75%. >> mark murray, good to see you. thank you for being with me this morning. >> thanks, jose. developing right now in miami, we're just a couple minutes away from jeb bush holding a town hall with high school students as he faces some tough new poll numbers in the early state of iowa. right now bush is in sixth place in iowa. he's just one from being 4%. ben carson jumps ahead, tying donald trump for the lead there. let's go to the presbyterian school in miami, cite of -- site of jeb bush's town hall. good to see you. how is the jeb bush camp responding to these numbers? >> reporter: you see him with a new attack at donald trump, it's a video painting trump as a liberal, not a true conservative in this race.
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we're going to play about 20 seconds of that video. take a listen. >> partial birth abortion. >> i'm very pro-choice. i am pro-choice in every respect, and as far as it goes. as far as single payer it works in canada, it works incredibly well in scotland. the fact is that 25% for high income people should be raised substantially. >> reporter: so bush's campaign trying to portray donald trump as the liberal in this race by highlighting some of his past positions, although those positions won't come as a surprise to republican primary voters who have put bush in front of this race. coming under attack by bush yesterday that we saw in which donald trump, as we play that video, really slammed bush for his comments on immigration being an act of love. immigration being one of the key parts, one of the key platforms in this gop race. the other big platform, at least for governor bush, jose, is, of course, education, and that is
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why he is out here today talking about school choice and taking aim not at anybody in the republican field, necessarily, but really hitting hillary clinton hard when it comes to education reform, when it comes to the role of unions in education, teachers' unions specifically, jose. back to you. >> halley jackson in lmiami. when they give you a cup of coffee, it's just a little shot. don't drink the entire cup or you'll be up for four weeks. >> i may never leave miami, jose. >> hopefully you'll stay for a while. thank you. good to see you. developing now in kentucky, a county clerk is still refusing to grant marriage licenses to gay couples despite a supreme court order last night denying her appeal. take a listen to what she told couples looking for marriage licenses just moments ago.
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>> we are not issuing marriage licenses today. >> based on what? why are you not issuing marriage licenses today? >> because i'm not. >> why? >> under authority. >> whose authority? >> under god's authority. >> with me now, nbc's justice correspondent pete williams. pete, what kind of repercussions is kim davis, the person we were seeing on that video, possibly facing today? >> well, first of all, the people who have applied for marriage licenses are meeting with their lawyers. they could pursue a contempt of court action here. she's still under an order from a federal judge ordering her to perform her duties and issue marriage licenses, and as you probably saw there, she's not issuing any marriage licenses to anybody. she said she couldn't issue them to same-sex couples because that would violate her deeply held religious views, so, therefore, she said because she didn't want to discriminate, she's just not issuing any at all. so the people involved here could pursue contempt of court charges. that could result in a fine or
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jail time. secondly, the county attorney late last week referred an official misconduct charge to the state attorney general's office. the state attorney general could appoint a special prosecutor from another county, the county attorney there in her county says that he can't take the case because it would be a conflict of interest because of some other legal issues. so that is another possibility. and, of course, there could also be a recall election, although she seems quite popular in that county, so i don't know what the next step is going to be, but certainly something is going to happen here because there are just too many moving parts to allow this stalemate to continue. >> pete williams, thank you very much. we'll keep a watch on this story as it develops. a georgia police officer is in critical condition this morning after he was shot while responding to a burglary call at the wrong house. it happened last night near atlanta. officials say officers arrived at the house, and when they did so, shots were fired hitting both the cop and the homeowner.
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the homeowner's dog was also killed. authorities say officers went to the wrong address because they had been given a vague description of a house without a street number. we're also learning more details about the suspect in the shooting death of the sheriff's deputy. shannon miles made his first court appearance. he is accused of shooting a deputy shot 15 times ate houston gas station. let's go to jamie novigrad. jamie, what details have you learned this morning about miles' past? >> reporter: good morning, jose. miles was found three months ago to be unfit to stand trial after he beat another man unconscious. he was indicted by a grand jury and then committed to a mental institution tore about four months before he was deemed fit. but, jose, charges were dropped after authorities couldn't find the victim. in the meantime, i would like to give you a glimpse of how the community at this gas station has responded to the shooting.
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this is pump number 8 where the shooting occurred. it's now been swallowed up by a sea of balloons and flowers and messages. behind it, there is a table where volunteers have collected cash donations. they say they've collected about $90,000 in all, just short of $90,000 since the shooting occurred four days ago, and here on the sidewalk, chalkings, messages of love, and through the morning, jose, people have continued to come by, this memorial growing every day. >> jamie, thank you very much. i appreciate that. so much more ahead on this busy hour of the run down. two big events on the 2016 front are happening now, a rally held by hillary clinton in d.c. plus jeb bush is talking to high school students. this is the worst for the
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in syria, the united nations are confirming that isis terrorists have indeed destroyed a 2,000-year-old temple, the latest in a campaign to wipe out ancient sites throughout the mideast. these satellite images were released showing the site of where the temple had been. look on the right. the images taken yesterday were the ones seen on the right.
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leif, what a horrible situation that's been going on. why is isis doing this? >> there are religious purposes. isis believes that destroying idols and idol worshipping should not exist in any territory ruled by islamic shia. they believe that temple is part of idol worshipping that goes back about 2,000 years. it has done the same thing with other statues and other structure that it deems as a religious religious or unholy act. so it's their perspective. but i believe in the case of palmera, they are digging for gold long forgotten about, and the creator of the palmera ruins a few months ago, and the story keeps unfolding. >> talk to me about the importance of this, because this
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was really well preserved, a place of really importance for all humanity. >> absolutely. it's one of the oldest well-preserved temples in actually the entire middle east. it goes around to 32 a.d., and ever since it's gone through many, many different kinds of wars, even through the byzantine era and survived. now, we don't believe that the entire structure was destroyed. it might have been just partially destroyed as some of the ancient columns remain, but, again, this is one of the oldest, most important ancient structures with a lot of history engraved on it, and isis seems to have done the same thing to other ancient ruins. >> if you look back at some of the preserved areas, palmera definitely at the top.
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you have lebanon that still maintains some of the original walls of those extraordinary structures. but this, it seems as though when we're looking at these images, it was not just the structure but the whole museum around it and the protection it's had, even through generations of wars, this has always been respected and maintained. >> absolutely been respected and maintained, again, throughout wars. it was not even touched by some of the conquerors and it went through a number of religions. there was a period of amazing trade and business that took place in the heart of palmera, and again, these ruins were preserved over time, but isis' almost, i want to call it, de n demonic approach to destroying what they call idols keeps unfolding and i think we'll see it even more that they've done the same thing to churches, they've done the same thing to
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shia shrines and mausoleums, so it runs the gamgamut. >> have you seen the shiites saying, stop this! this is not something that our religion feels is tolerable. >> we've seen other jihadi groups going back to the taliban, destroying buddhist structures, and al qaeda has done the same thing. isis propaganda indoctrinating the locals, it will go with ease. i think the backlash will come from international organizations and muslims who are involved with a number of well-known ngos to blast them on line, but otherwise there is not going to be a backlash from the locals. >> i think there is a very good reason for that, leif, and you mentioned at the beginning of our conversation, they beheaded the curator of that very important treasure that humanity has lost, apparently.
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leif, good seeing you. thank you for being here. >> thank you, jose. we're going through other things making news, including a sniper on a busy phoenix highway. as we go to the break, we'll have a look at the market. mandy drury has everything you need to know about the stock market and more. do you like the passaaadd? it's a good looking car. this is the model rear end event. the model year end sales event. it's year end! it's the rear end event. year end, rear end, check it out. talk about turbocharging my engine. you're gorgeous. what kind of car do you like? new, or many miles on it? the volkswagen model year end sales event ends on labor day. so hurry in to your local volkswagen dealer today.
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cnbc headquarters with the latest. mandy, good morning. >> you're right, it's a big drop this morning. the dow opened in negative territory and the nasdaq is also negative year to date. the s&p not back to correction level. the numbers to watch there are 1921. the news is the energy sector being hardest hit here. remember, china is the world's biggest energy consumer, and financials are really low because they've been banking on higher rates down the line. when the chinese pmi data came out this morning with a three-year low, even though it was in line with expectations, i guess the situation is that it was just underscoring the fact that it's slowing down. mind you, and here's the mind you that is very important to note, jose, a lot of factories in and around beijing has been closed for weeks now in order to make the air cleaner ahead of this week's military parade. so remember, that could be something to do with it as well. but nonetheless, it's still
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putting a big fat red line under the fact that the slowdown in the china economy is real, and a lot of our companies in the united states, particular ail l -- particularly a lot of tech companies, do have china exposure. >> mandy drury, thank you very much for that update. a sniper rescue operation. the family of a woman shot and killed by a mexican national in july is expected to announce a lawsuit today against a san francisco sheriff, ice, skburt r -- and the bureau of land management. kate stiley when she was walking along a pier in san francisco. he had been deported five times. sanchez said he came to san francisco because it's a city that offers special protection for undocumented immigrants. the search is on this morning in phoenix, arizona after the state patrol said four
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vehicles were shot at within 48 hours along i-10. the first two shootings happened late saturday, the third one saturday night. the fourth one monday morning. investigators say they're trying to figure out if the same gunman is responsible for all four incidents. luckily only one injury was minor. a 13-year-old girl was treated for a cut to the right ear from a shattered windshield. three tropical storms churning and breaking records. this is the first time three charted hurricanes are happening at the same time. experts say we can blame el nino for that. we could see the strongest el nino pattern ever this year. the guatemalan president is expected to resign. it was recommended that the president be stripped of his prosecutorial immunity because of his suspected involvement in
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a corruptions scandal. it's a scandal that currently has his former vice president in jail. this all comes at a critical time for the central america nation given that presidential elections are being held on sunday. and happening right now in miami, gop candidate jeb bush is speaking at a town hall with local high school students in little havana. i'll have more on this event. plus a nazi train packed with gold lost for 70 years may have been found in the mountains of poland. details on this incredible story ahead on "the rundown." g sound> skrch... skrch... what are you doing? i just gotta scrape the rest of the food off them. ew. dish issues? cascade platinum powers through this brownie mess better than the competition, the first time. cascade.
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you haven't, i'm sure you will in one of your social studies classes, this nation was created based on individual freedom and liberty, and it assumed that we were a self-governing people and that we were godly people, which is how they viewed the way to govern yourself. and so there are restrictions on government that have eroded over time but they still exist and makes us unique. that would be one thing. the second thing is that we have a country that historically has kind of taken all comers. we have a set of shared values that defines citizenship in this country, defines what it is to be an american. that's unique as well. a lot of countries have race as their identifyer. if you're in japan, you have to be japanese, by and large, to be japanese. you have to be ethnically or racially japanese to be a japanese citizen. same with korea. but here we have a set of shared values, so you embrace those
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values. it doesn't matter where you start in life, it doesn't matter the color of your skin or if you've got a z at the end of your name or if you have an accent. we all have accents. we're different in varying ways, and our diversity makes us extraordinarily successful. as long as we have a set of shared values, it really does define our country. so those two things, i think, have created much more creativity, much more innovation, much more kind of a can-do-forward leaning spirit. that's all at risk now, kind of. our country is being challenged and torn apart, the set of shared values that we have, i'm not sure we all embrace the same values anymore. but if we reestablish what those shared values are and embrace our heritage, which is an extraordinary one and a truly exceptional one, we'll lead the world for a long, long while. so i hope you conclude that when you do your studying that this is an extraordinary country and it's up to us to really fulfill
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our destiny and continue to do so as our predecessors had. >> jeb bush answering some of the questions from the students at this high school in little havana. they've asked him things about the national debt, his favorite food and now he's going in spanish, i think. [ speaking spanish ] >> where are you going to go to college, he asked her. do you know? no, i don't know yet. i want to know what's the possibility that we as immigrants can receive financial aid or other aid so we can pay for the career that we wish to have? and i know that many years ago, this country passed laws that no child would be left behind. what happens with these children that have dreams to study, and because of their immigration stat status, cannot. maybe they could one day become great professionals.
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he says, i agree. the first thing we have to do is resolve the problem of immigration. the politicians talk a lot, but this is used as a political tactic to divide. i want to be president to resolve the problem, to legalize the process, especially for children, speespecially dreamer. so jeb bush answering questions about immigration from a high school student that has dreams and aspirations but sees the immigration not having her documents is going to stunt those dreams. but now to developing news out of thailand. we're getting a first look at the three new suspects police believe are involved in last month's deadly bombing in a popular city shrine. police also confirmed this morning that a key suspect in the attack is now in custody. nbc's ian williams is in beijing for the very latest. ian, what can you tell us about these arrests? >> reporter: good morning, jose. this arrest today, the second suspect to be taken into
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custody, happened near the thai cambodian border. now, the prime minister was very upbeat this morning, saying he thought this was the main suspect with a close resemblance to that man in yellow, you recall, that man seen in security video footage just a few minutes before the bomb exploded at the shrine, killing 20 people and injuring more than 130 others. later today, the police described him as an important suspect. they said he was a foreigner but he also spoke english. he has now been taken to bangkok where they'll be taking dna and fingerprints and matching those with samples they took from a motorcycle that the bomber was seen taking from the scene of the crime. now, we also know the other suspect who was arrested on saturday at an apartment in bangkok with bomb-making material and fake turkish pass
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por ports. we believe it was from that apartment, from that suspect that led to this arrest. now a total of seven more arrest warrants were issued. again, we believe it's information that was gathered from that apartment, from that initial suspect. so still this investigation has been a little erratic. some of the information we're getting has been confused, sometimes contradictory, but certainly it appears today that we do have progress that these are foreign suspects who have been arrested. although the police at this point will not release any more information about what nationality they are and what the motives are. breaking news out of smithfield, rhode island. fire officials have confirmed a building collapsed at bryant university. we're just getting in these aerial shots of the steel structure that collapsed near the athletic fields. take a look at that. police say they received a call
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around 8:20 a.m. at least six people transported to local hospitals. no word yet on their injuries, but there you see what has clearly collapsed. the university is 12 miles outside of providence. classes there are scheduled to begin the 8th of september. we have breaking news right now out of kentucky where a clerk has been denying all marriage licenses because she wants to deny same-sex marriage licenses despite a court order. justices correspondent pete williams has the latest developments. pete, what are they? >> reporter: the latest development is that a lawyer for same-sex couples, same-sex and opposite sex couples who have been seeking marriage licenses, now asked the federal judge, the one who originally ordered her to issue the licenses, they've asked the judge to hold her in contempt of court. now, the judge has that authority. he could fine her or put her in jail if he finds her in criminal contempt of court and hold her in jail until she agrees to comply.
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but we're a long way from an order by the judge. this is the request. the judge will undoubtedly ask for a response from her lawyers and then there will undoubtedly be a hearing, but this is the next step here. of course, the state can pursue its own actions here. the county attorney had referred a misconduct charge to the state attorney general's office late last week, and there's been no movement on that yet. the county attorney said that he couldn't handle the case because it would be a conflict. but this is the next step here. the lawyers for the couples involved are asking a federal judge to hold kim davis, the county clerk, in contempt of court for refusing to issue marriage licenses as the judge had ordered her to do. >> pete williams, thank you very much. >> okay. challenges for hillary clinton's campaign this morning. overnight the state department released over 7100 e-mails from her time as secretary of state. the fbi has now labeled 125 of those messages as confidential.
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it's the lowest level but it's still top secret government information. it wasn't labeled that way when the secretary either received them or sent them. as we've been noting all morning, this is not an issue. what is an issue is what all of these e-mails say about the pattern. an msnbc senior editor beth foley and ann is here to talk with me about that. you heard senior political analyst mark murray say there is no smoking gun here. but is there an overarching headline here? >> there isn't a smoking gun, as far as i can see, jose. her friend blumenthal is still heavy. she's talking to her daughter chelsea about what's going on in haiti. there really is no smoking gun, so what it says to me is why on
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earth was she so protective of these e-mails that she had to set up a second server. she created a headache for herself that she didn't need to create. unless we're going to see something that blows the top off this whole thing, and there are several more e-mails to come out, it just seems she made a huge effort to protect something that didn't need a whole lot of protection. >> this is about 25% of the totality that's been released, the totality that the state department received from mrs. clinton? >> it's going to continue to be this sort of drip, drip, drip story for her unless they come out with something that's extremely explosive. it's just kind of this nagging irritant that doesn't allow this clinton campaign to get ahead and be on the offense instead of defense. >> do we know whose idea it was to have a separate server? as beth was saying, it just doesn't -- you figure, why would she go to these lengths to do it? whose idea was it?
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>> no, we don't know that, jose. what secretary clinton said back in march when the existence of the private e-mail address and private server first became widely known was that she had set this up for convenience, that she only wanted to carry one device and setting it up this way allowed her to be able to mingle her work and personal e-mails in a way that wasn't easily available to state department employees at the time she took the job in 2009. there has always been a strong suspicion that the real reason is that she and her advisers and lawyers wanted to keep her e-mail as separate from the government as possible, not that that was an attempt specifically to hide something but more that it could have been an attempt to make it more difficult for congressional republicans or
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reporters, nosy reporters, to be able to poke about in it. she said she never intended to try to subvert public accountability here. >> the campaign is already trying to use some of those humorous e-mails around ordering skim milk or the times when some tv shows were scheduled to run. as well as the issue of, i don't know if my ipad is on wi-fi or not. those were the two shows she was looking at in one e-mail. at one time she did say she did this so she wouldn't have to have a work e-mail and -- i mean, a device and a personal device. but now it does seem as though she did have an ipad that she wanted up and running for a trip to keogh.
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>> those of us who traveled with her as secretary of state remember the ipad. it was always clear she had more than one device, and she used the ipad largely, it appears, for reading news articles, things that people sent to her that were easier to read, you know, sort of on the larger format and when she had more time. the h-pad, as one of her aides called it, is one of the funnier e-mails here. there was also one called the gifelte fish. she was the secretary of everything, apparently. >> thank you both for being with me. i appreciate t. >> thank you. over in ukraine, the situation is being described as calm, a big change from the way things have been. it's thanks to a fragile cease fire between ukranian government soldiers and pro-russian separatists that appears to be holding for now. but the country is very much on
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edge. the capital city of keogh is suspected of throwing a grenade outside the parliament on monday. four people died and people were wounded from the attack. joining me now, former u.s. ambassador to ukraine, william taylor, currently vice president of the u.s. institute of peace. thank you for being with me. >> thank you, jose. >> what's going on? this is not the first time these two sides have tried to cease fire. >> the cease fire is part of a larger agreement called the minsk agreement that includes the cease fire as well as some political changes, some constant that the russians would like to see the ukranians make. the problem, of course, is the cease fire is necessary to stop the killing. the constitutional changes, the political changes, take time. and we see the tensions yesterday in kiev when the
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political parties in the parliament is trying to make these changes. but what should happen is establish a cease fire, get the osce monitors to be sure the cease fire is being adhered to and then have the political work done. >> but ambassador, isn't this political work that's being done right now as this grenade goes off killing several people, isn't that political work actually an admission that there are parts of ukraine that the ukranian people have lost control over, that it's now not in their hands to be able to guarantee controls of those areas? >> certainly there is a big part of ukraine that is not under control of the kiev government, and that's crimea. the russians, as we know, illegally occupied and illegally annexed crimea, which is part of ukraine. there is another part in the southeastern part of ukraine where the russian soldiers and the separatists that they support are in charge, are in
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control. that's the problem that the politicians and the partic parliamentariparticle men tear ar-- parliamentarians are trying to sort out. >> is this something russia may have in mind for the president in the future in parts of ukraine? >> i don't think so. i think the problem is that the minsk agreement tries to mix an unnecessary first step, the cease fire, and longer term political change which must come. president porshenko, the president of ukraine, has agreed there should be some decentralizing across ukraine, across the country. that needs to happen, and president porshenko has
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constituted that kind of change. decentralization in ukraine is controversial. there are those on the national side in ukraine who don't want to see any changes to that political arrangement, and so that is the kind of tension that they have to face. but again, the first step needs to be a separation of the cease fire under minsk yet on the political changes. >> thank you for being with me. this is such an important issue that i don't think we give enough coverage of and i'm glad you're giving us that very important perspective. >> thank you. it is truly a crisis. hundreds of refugees outside the train station in hungary. we'll have new details next right here on "the rundown." is. two trains leave st. louis for albuquerque at the same time. same cargo, same size, same power. which one arrives first? hint: it's not the one on the left. the speedy guy on the right
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vatican, pope francis making a big announcement concerning abortion. it would resolve roman catholic priests to absolve women who had abortions if they seek forgiveness in the upcoming year of holy mercy, which begins october 8. women who seek it are usually excommunicated. under normal circumstances, forgiveness can only be granted by senior church figures. developing now in hungary, hundreds of migrants protesting outside the nation's capital. this was the scene this morning after hundreds were on the train platform after they were stopped from boarding westbound trains. galio is at the station now. what's the very latest? >> reporter: as you can see behind me, hundreds of migrants are protesting by the decision of the hungarian government to shut down, to close down the train station here in budapest, especially to them. they're not allowing them to enter the station to board the
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train to vienna or munich in germany where most of them want to apply for asylum despite the fact that most of them showed their tickets that cost as much as $150 for a train ticket from budapest all the way to munich. now, the hungarian authorities say they're doing this, they're simply applying the eu law that says that anybody without a valid passport or a visa cannot travel freely across europe, but humanitarian organizations are saying by doing this, they're simply pushing these migrants in the hands of human traffickers who offer to take them to their final destination of choice, usually germany, overcrowded in the back of vans and at the risk of their own lives. jose? >> thank you very much. we're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back with a whole lot more of t"the
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jeb bush just wrapped up his town hall in miami with a group of students. he is now speaking to the press outside there. moments ago he had this exchange with one of those students about gun control. >> my question for you is, mass shootings have been crazy over the past several years. do you think there should be stricter gun laws, and would it be beneficial for teachers to carry guns during school hours? >> wow, that's a controversial subject. what do you guys do here? no packing? i don't think that ought to be a national, you know -- the federal government shouldn't be involved in gun laws. >> let me bring in benji suarez, political reporter. benji, what do you think about
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that? >> it's funny he says it should be a debate here at school, but the school shooting that killed 20 students in connecticut resulted in carrying by teachers. also college students that were only a year or less can carry guns there. he sidestepped the issue by saying it was a state fight and he didn't want to get into state fights. but this is an actual conversation going on in school systems around the country right now, and it's a lot more serious than it sounds. >> and certainly the questions these young people were asking the former governor were important. there were obviously some light ones but they were talking to him about the debt, about gun control, about immigration, about the dreamers. so many of these issues that i think a lot of times our national media doesn't ask with specificity, these kids were asking the former governor here
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in miami. >> oh, yeah, it was definitely no nonsense here. there were questions with specifics about what he would do with the 11 million undocumented immigrants in america, there was a question about whether dreamers could get state tuition. i think these are definitely some pretty smart, sophisticated kids right here. they did their homework before these questions. >> benji, thank you for being with me. that wraps up "the rundown." tamron hall is next with "news nation." i'll see you right here tomorrow. ms. doers. they don't worry if something's possible. ms. they just do it. at sears optical, we're committed to bringing them eyewear that works as hard as they do. right now, buy one pair and get another free. quality eyewear for doers. sears optical
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church treats women who have had an abortion. good to be with you on this tuesday. i'm francis rivera in for tamron hall. we begin with what could be a new headache for hillary clinton. the state department released a huge new batch of e-mails from her time as secretary of state and some contained now classified information. but the state department says that information was not confidential at the time it was sent. clinton has always insisted she never knowingly sent classified data using her private e-mail. nbc's andrea mitchell is in washington with more on what's exactly in the latest batch of e-mails. >> good morning, francis. this is the story that just won't go away for hillary clinton. and today the largest batch of clinton e-mails yet, more than 7,000 pages released under court order overnight. roughly 125 are now classified, though they weren't at the time they were sent. this time none were top secret, but 125 were

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